Law Enforcement officers no longer exempt from purchasing “off roster” handguns in California.
Child gets snatched. Held at knife point. Officer took the chance and shot the kidnapper at point blank range.
so I went to the range with semperannoying while I was in town, first time shooting since January when I shot my last video. We put a total of 300 rounds through the M&P and 50 rounds through the LCR. Rented a Springfield Armory 1911A1 milspec (cried about the box of ammo $38.50), and shot a cop’s Sig P229 and Khar pistol.
before the session I gave semperannoying a brief safety brief and rundown of how to present the gun.
got to the range and got set up. We started with a box of 124gr NATO standard 9mm FMJ. My first time shooting the NATO standard I felt as if it was a hotter round for some reason. We could only fire at a slow cadence so accuracy was a main practice, so I took my time. I switched back to 115gr FMJ and noticed a definite change in recoil impulse compared to 124gr, much lighter. Target was then set at 25m and simply placing the dot onto the intended area would place the round where ever I had the dot, rest was up to my breathing and trigger control. Unfortunately I lack any pictures and the videos I took pointing down range, I forgot to zoom in with. Between me and semerannoying, I found that the red dot actually helped an experience shooter and a completely new shooter achieve very similar groupings (7m-15m) except only I took shots at 25m. Or maybe I just suck lol so transition between ammo 115gr and 124gr definitely do feel a difference, interesting that 147gr does not feel as hot as the 124gr from my memory.
next was the LCR, my backup gun. The long trigger pull break and full reset was difficult for a new shooter to use and the <2” barrel with 130gr .38 FMJ does provide a bit more kick than the 124gr 9mm. I let him fire a .357 158gr JHP for fun and it had him shooked (ask him for the video). I was able to achieve a headshot at 25m on target (again, vid footage would not do justice due to neglect of the zoom feature) and I did miss quite a few times at 10m due to me jerking the trigger, semperannoying short stroked the trigger a few times and skipped a few rounds, something to be aware of with a DAO gun, especially with only 5 rounds.
I then rented milspec model 1911A1 at the front desk. Gave semperannoying the rundown and control placement of the weapon system and loaded the mag and started my first squeeze. Hot casing flew on my back under my shirt, definitely karma for all the shit I talked about the weapon system LOL but apart from the GI sights, the 1911 was a nail driver at 10m with tight groups between me and semperannoying. And the rental gun actually worked compared to the last 1911 I rented 8months ago (again, GI models are more reliable than low end customs). Semperannoying actually caught hot brass down his pants due to a hole he had in his jeans, also did a ridiculous dance of burning pain as fellow shooters chuckled.
there was a county sheriff deputy over on the next lane and he was with his wife and brother shooting a few guns. I approached the cop and asked him why he wasn’t putting more of body mass behind the shotgun they were shooting, he showed me how Franken fun gun and it had a really long length of pull which didn’t allow for the shooter to square their body behind it well. He asked if I was military or a cop as well and I chuckled and told him that I’m merely a student and he was impressed with what I knew in the brief explanation of body mechanics of shotgun shooting. I offered to let him shoot my M&P and I wasn’t able to explain the procedure of how to present the gun with the red dot, he figures to track the front sight since the red dot was co-witnessed (also, it was common for him and semperannoying to lose the dot but see only the front sight, this is from poor presentation of the weapon as it is presented and the wrists are pointed up, quick explanation and the shooters were able to correct it after their miss). The cop then handed me his backup Khar .40 and told me to have a go.
the Khar had a definite sharp recoil impulse, similar to firing my LCR but kicked slightly more. The large slide release would chew your thumb especially if your hands consume as much of the gun it can. Ultra slim and the extended mag definitely provided good purchase on the pistol to control more of the recoil. The cop then handed me his Sig P229 .40 and inside I went HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG pretty hard :) the P229 is still one of my favorite pistols and the first 9mm I ever shot years ago. I loaded and made ready with the pistol and squeezed my first shot in single action. The Sig trigger is just how i remembered it and my first shot was point of aim, point of impact. I decocked and place the shot with double action right next to the first shot. The rest of the mag was all in 3” group (regret not having pics <|3) decocked and handed the beautiful pistol back to the cop.
we had brief discussion on .40 vs 9mm afterwards. His department issued Glock 22s and he has his P229 as his home defense gun. My impression of shooting .40 is that it is better to shoot it through a steel frame gun like the Sig than a polymer gun like a Glock, the recoil impulses are slightly different but I maybe more bias towards Sig and the feel and ergonomics of the weapon system. The P229 was definitely more controllable than his Khar (obviously) and I surprisingly was able to group well of not very identical to my M&P with the P229 (maybe I’m truly just a Sig guy). He then discussed what kind of distances and biannual qualification course was for his department. He was impressed of my explanation of the crucial shot placement to the upper chest to t zone of the head (didn’t have a full body target to explain pelvis shots). He explained that they are trained to shoot from retention to 7-10m at most. The distances beyond that to 25m would be considered as a prolonged gunfight with cover and movement, so he was impressed that I was putting well timed and accurate shot placements beyond 10m. His choice for staying with department issued .40 handguns is because the mistrust of 9mm, though he did agree with having the right ammo selection and rounds put onto the threat during the fight. He figured that if it was merely FMJ ammo, .40 puts bigger holes in the threat with less shots. And we agreed that its mostly whatever caliber is best for the shooter overall and made the shooter more combat effective.
last drill or activity was “hot gun” drill. Reference it from magpul dynamic handgun videos or DVDs. Semperannoying especially enjoyed this drill and went through a box of ammo through it. Added immediate action drills to the mix and it was especially good practice of skillset.
in closing, we packed up and had one last chat with the cop. He told me to finish up my degree and get hired on and start formally teaching and get certified in different training schools throughout the field. Also, the officer has the last name Tran as well, which surprised me as he looked Caucasian, he’s half Viet, and asked what my last name was
good training day and experience and knowledge gained. “get out to the range and train, the people on the internet still be wrong when you get back”
Get up and get out on the range to train, the people on the internet will still be wrong when you get back to it.
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